Job Offer part 2

HA!

Published on September 24, 2007 By Ziggystyles In Life Journals

Well I havent posted anything since last week when I got my job offer. Figured I would wait until my physical came and went.

And so I sit here with my DOT medical card, meaning I passed.

Woke up this morning, went to a place for a drug test, then zipped across town for the DOT physical, which took about a half hour or so. Then ended up doing another drug test.

BP was my main concern and that was 120 / 84. No issues there. Im not diabetic as the last test proved so. Didn't check my cholesterol, but that has never been anywhere remotely of an issue.

I did well on all the tests, passed and was on my way to take and pass the permit test for my CDL. I was confused about something so I need to go back in tomorrow and take the rest of the testing.

So I talked to my boss, the guy that runs the account last week. I will be running a dedicated route five days a week to dealerships and auto parts stores in my neck of the woods and northern UT. Wake up...get the truck and swap trailers with someone who comes to drop my trailer off...then go west. Make various stops...transfer my remaining load to another truck waiting for me over there in UT, then I zip back home and call it a night. Rinse and repeat the next day.

As far as the physical demands of the job...I figure it will be more than normal for other drivers as I will be unloading the truck myself, instead of having the reciever do it. I will have a pallet jack and push and pull...etc the load off the truck via a lift gate. Thats no problem...the only issue is getting the thing moving. I should go down to the local truck stop and take a look at the truck and just take a looksie. Did that last week with Marcie, but felt like I was snooping a bit...even though all we did was just drive up and look at it.

I get paid a salary, by the week, not by the mile. Ive been trying to crunch the numbers in my head...because technically I don't get paid much per mile, something around 30 cents or so. However, I only work 40 hours a week compared to the 60-70hours that many truck drivers run. So I figure that in a sense, Im making more too...making the lower end of the average starting salary for inexperienced first year Over The Road drivers and working 20-30 hours less a week ontop of that.

So right now Im just waiting for my birth certificate to get here. I misplaced mine last week and for the life of me, can't find the danged thing. My Mom went to the courthouse over lunch and overnighted me another one....Overnight in Wyoming is 2 days....argh. Then I need to go and get my combination and air brake test taken too before Friday and sometime I will need to take the HazMat as well.

Im not sure where Im going to be taking the test for my CDL...I imagine it's going to have to be up here, but I don't know how they are going to work that out with a truck and all. Hmm. Time will tell.

Comments (Page 5)

Ziggystyles

on Sep 28, 2007

Hahaha, why are you so worried about where I work, Ziggy? Unlike some really, really stupid people on JU, I don't give out personal information like that.

Well thats interesting because you have written before. Complained about the newspaper many times. Just interesting how you point out how many jobs I've had...but that finger doesnt seem to bend backwards towards yourself. Id just like to know what you do. Telling us what job you have isn't personal at all. Telling us where you work and such...that might be. Money is Not important to us, although Im sure youd like to make it seem that way.

The difference between a winner and a loser, btw, isn't how much money you're making, or even what you do for a living, even though it's obvious (by her shitty response to Brad on that article) that you and Marcie seem to think it's the sole criteria of measurement.

My comments that have mentioned Marcie getting a raise, are just that...pointing that out. Not bragging or anything. A teachers pay is never something to brag about. With my job and her raise, we will be making about 20%ish more than last year so paying off our bills will be even easier. If I stuck it through a year or two out with this company or even quit to get a oil field job...my pay will double from what i made last year so we can get more paid off incredibly fast. So, just tell us what you do.

The difference (one of them, at least) is this...if (and who knows, maybe when) Simon and I find ourselves in financial straits, we won't be blaming anyone but ourselves.

Yeah, you know I guess you are right Sabrina. I should blame those people who signed our mortgage papers for the tra....oh yeah that was us. We know what we do, and what we have done. We made the choice we felt was best at the time. YOu sit and armchair (fill in the blank) from over there. I havent put blame for any of our decisions on anybody else. Sorry you think otherwise. Actually, no Im not sorry.

Marcies assertion that the reason she sucks at budgeting is because her father died before she could learn these skills from him is just a pathetic excuse for avoiding personal responsibility.

And having yoru head up your ass is? She never balmed her father for anything. SHe did write that her father was the financial guru of the household and he passed away before she was able to understand she needed those skills. She was saying that she would have liked to learn from her father. Her mother does not have as good of budgeting skills as her father had. Way to totally screw up someones words there.

It's not like there aren't other sources of information regarding the topic, it's just that neither of you will listen, because you think you know it all, lol.

Just because you have a house, doesnt mean you know it all.

If you each make about 30K, you'll do fine. It can't be nearly as expensive there as it is here, and that's about what we're making. If you can't do fine with that, there are probably things you can cut back on to make it fine.

Jythier...it depends. Housing is through the roof here as far as prices. Cost of grocieries and gas is also on the high side. We will clear 60. The main thing is just various debts we have. Outside of the trailer, we have various college loans and credit cards (from my younger days) to pay off. Hope to make a huge dent in that this year. Actually as soon as I start making regular pay, we will be OK with having the trailer...although we hope to not have it for much longer.

I'm pretty sure you both want kids. If you start sacrificing now, well, then your standard of living can stay the same when you have kids.

Yes we do and we were saving some money up this spring and summer. However, we have used that up in the past month or so as I have been job hunting.

I do try to see your side of it, really. But I also see LW's and Gid's points. They're really smart, Ziggy, even if they're a little quirky.

I welcome all comments, and questions. I know some people do respect LW and Gid. I think Gid and I at least understand each other. Gideon is more respected in my eyes as he doesnt have to resort to the insults, personal attacks and name calling. That and I know he is working and supporting his family so I take his advice...might not apply or be the best...but I can at least listen to it. Sabrina just doesnt like me, hates it when I disagree with her. Bitches about my thinking Im all knowing...but absolutely loathes when I disagree with her. LIke the time I mentioned she was using completely false information about my bike price....she took it off her blog and reminded me I wasnt allowed to post on there. Last week she misquoted an article to make something sound good in her favor...but I had to point out the rest of the article which proved her point mute. She calls us many names for whatever reason floats her boat, uses those personal attackks and insults...and then tries to imply we should grow up. She mocks my wife for saying she is leaving and coming back...when she does the very same thing her self (her last one lasted a week in theory...although she still sent out her friday five, and various replies across the board...meaning she never left...just didnt post for like 3 days).

Just gets old after a while.

MarcieMoo

on Sep 28, 2007

Wait...I wrote a "goodbye" article? Can you point that out to me? Because I can't seem to find it. In fact, the last time I wrote one was probably sometime in the spring of 06, which was a year and a half ago. But who's counting? You're not, obviously. The only article I have posted right now is something retarded about my cousin.

Instead of seeing a doctor, maybe I should just have my husband treat me like a jack-o-lantern and carve me up and beat the shit out of me. I bet that'd make everything okay.

I also love how it's okay for you to continually spew falsities, yet when I respond IN THE SAME MANNER YOU DO, Sabrina, I'm a nutcase.

And the children in my care are blossoming, so thanks for the prayers. They must be working.

Ziggystyles

on Sep 28, 2007

Happy now?

interesting. Didn't know that could be considered a job, no offsense. You did mention back last year about selling something on Amazon.com, so it seems that is just something you did on the side and are solely doing?

*shuffles and touches everybodies cards in waiting*

Pay attention.

Its the ADHD, sorry. Not on my meds.

We all make mistakes, Ziggy, you just never admit to yours

I've said things in this thread alone that point out how that is NOT true. WTF?

I've never said I'm infallible, in fact, I've made TONS of mistakes in my life, and gee whiz, that's how I managed to learn a few things. Over the years, I've tried off and on to share some of that knowledge with you and Marcie, mostly for her sake, but the more I get to 'know' you two, the more I'm beginning to believe that you're a far more reasonable person than she is, even if you are just as deaf and twice as arrogant.

I know you have experience and more so than us, your older than we are and have been through alot...Im not denying it. However, that doesn't mean your advice is always correct and if it was, was the best option or choice for us. We made our choices you didn't. You seem to be the only one that dwells on them. Dear Lord, Move on already. I had a student who was challenging to say the least last year. When we had them taken out...the last thing they heard from me was "______, Hey buddy, see you tomorrow, ok?" Every Time. When I would see them in town shopping or whatever, Id talk to them like a friend, ask them if they had talked to their parents...etc, and that I would see them tomorrow.

People make mistakes, When my students make them, We talk about it and move on. I don't sit there and dwell on it, nor bring it up over and over and over again. I myself have never (I think) not asked for your advice. Feel free to give it if you wish. But for Gods sake, don't have a fit if we don't take it. Let us live our own lives

the more I get to 'know' you two, the more I'm beginning to believe that you're a far more reasonable person

I would never feel like I get to know anyone by just seeing their words on the internet. I met Marcie on here through yahoo, and I didn't pass any judgment or anything until I met her. Completely stupid to do that (in my world) to do that based on just what one reads.

So there are no other sources than mommy and daddy for financial advice? C'mon, Ziggy, the two of you are college graduates, and it really doesn't take anything more than basic addition and subtraction plus a little self-discipline to balance a budget.

No...but parents (at least good ones) are always the first stop on the list for advice. I never had to budget in college. When I got out...and I got on my own...didn't really think that much about how to manage my money. We moved to Vegas and struggled there a bit as the housing was terrible and Marcie and I both had loans and credit cards we were trying to pay off. We did budget and the bike was a good sound choice at the time.

When we moved to MN, I worked two jobs and we were better off financially even though we made less than in Vegas...we paid even more off.

In our last town...bought the trailer...not going there. But at the same time, paid off our furniture and a couple of credit cards.

I do have a budget written out so I can track our finances. Its slow going, but at least its going. Havent really updated it recently as...well we havent paid anything, lol (shudders). I got my college loan on a 3 month forebarence (sp). The mortgage company won't refinance, but they will let us reduce payments if we qualify...but I might try for refinancing anyways. Marcies college loans (I think one of them) is on forebarence too as she is going after her masters. Just trying to put some bills off if we can.

when she was wanting to purchase yet another brand new trailer and I, (in agreement with YOU for once) advised her against it.

I don't remember exactly what she said. But our minds were made up before we left the park. It was just another option we were considering and it was a single wide.

I've stated repeatedly that we don't own a house, we rent a small

...hmm that does sound familiar...thanks for pointing that out.

It's 'moot.' Teacher.

You say Tomato...I say its a Vegetable.

I said I was taking a break from the forums for a little while, which I did. It doesnt matter if that little while was an hour, a day, or a month.

Well, Hell lets get really technical because I never used the words saying you were 'leaving.' Your break, whatever the heck it was, started on the 11th, you posted on the 12th, 14th, twice on the 17th, Thats a break?

Marcie, on the other hand, wrote long and nasty diatribes against damn near everyone in here, INCLUDING the Admins, about every other week for a while, swearing she'd never, EVER return and telling us all how much she hated us. It got so bad that she was ASKED to self banish or face permanent exile altogether.

So what? She got pissed at Brad and Karma. Karma more so. It just seemed there was a huge sense of "hey looky me, I have a button my shirt that says Admin....Respect my Authori - tie!" Of course then she was confined in her corner while everyone else snickered around. Kinda Horseshit in my opinion.

It doesn't matter to me, though, people can believe whatever they want, and that includes the choice to believe what I say about it, or what you and Marcie have to claim.

It does matter though. What we 'claim' is the truth, while what you spew, is your thoughts and opinions. You love to brag about how I cant keep a job...but constantly ignore every reply that proves you wrong.

And do give your "Moo" a kiss for me. For someone so sensitive about her weight, why the hell does she name herself like a cow, could you answer me that please?

She grew up on a farm. She likes cows. I know they had cows and I think Chickens...maybe pigs too...not sure...always get confused.. I wish I could have taken her to the MN state fair this fall. Her family has a bunch of farms scattered here and there around her hometown...one has been around for 100 years. Now I think her uncle raises cows now and then just for meat for themselves and they spread / sell it to the other members of the fam. Her grandfather who passed away even had a donkey....although now its on someone elses farm.

Ziggystyles

on Sep 29, 2007

Excuse me? You and Marcie are the ones who keep bringing it up!

Yeah...I mentioned I couldnt get workforce help and this is what you wrote in your second reply...

while I know you'll offer up all sorts of reasons why you feel your current unemployability (in that field) is the fault of circumstances beyond your control, I think that deep down inside, you know better.

I mean look at ya, you're still whining about me quoting the MSRP for a Goldwing--and calling me a LIAR for doing so.

How can I be 'whining' when I bring up your lies about something you misquoted 2 months ago...yet when you bring up things from 1-3 years past, its not whining?

You may have paid less, but the price I quoted was directly from Honda's website and since you hadn't (at that time) disclosed any details of your purchase (other than it was costing you over $400 per month in payments, not including insurance) I didn't lie, I just went with the info I had.

Lol....you KNOW I bought the bike in November of 04. I have mentioned quite a few times my bike is an 05 Model. Taking a quote for an 08 model that is completely different from the bike I have....that is what you did. Then when I posted a correction, you didn't even acknowledge that you were wrong. Hell, even the pictures I have posted on here SHOW the design of the bike....and a simple search on the internet would confirm what I have.

Besides, by the time you get done paying it off, (with all the interest and finance charges) I guarantee it's going to cost you FAR more than the 30k I quoted. Far more.

uh yeah. You quoted the msrp at 18-19k for an 05 bike using 08 model information. Then you were SURE of the fact I added lots of add-ons and such which would raise it to 30k. Either way, sure making a big fuss about it, thats for sure.

Still, you bring it up over and over and over, on multiple unrelated threads, as if your world is coming to an end because I quoted the MSRP instead of whatever 'deal' you figure you got. ~shrugs.

Right, please tell me who brought up the bike first on here...Gideon, or myself. Then you brought it up later on. Second...its just the fact that you refused to admit you were wrong about the information you posted about the price of my bike.

You also still carry on about the second trailer issue, and have brought that up here (AGAIN) as well.

Really? The first person that mentiond that was...you.

I thought you guys rented a place in the new town, did I miss something? You bought another trailer?

And yeah, you DID ask for advice when she was wanting you to get rid of the Honda

And please tell me when this was.

Just as I think Marcie had already made up her mind that the best thing to do this year was buy another (brand new, but we're supposed to applaud that because you were only considering a singlewide?) trailer.

See...the thing is...you arent reading. After you asked if we bought another one....I replied and said this:

We do live in a 2 bedroom apt right now.

...then later on you brought it up again...

when she was wanting to purchase yet another brand new trailer and I, (in agreement with YOU for once) advised her against it.

To which I again replied:

But our minds were made up before we left the park. It was just another option we were considering and it was a single wide.

Lol....and then again....you wrote:

WTF?

How many times do I have to explain this to you? Pay attention!

many times....I just like seeing you use the word diatribe. Kinda fun.

on the other hand, wrote long and nasty diatribes

*gets goosebumps*

I DO CARE THAT WHEN I TAKE THE TIME TO SHARE MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCES, EXPERIENCES YOU MIGHT LEARN FROM, THAT I AM TOLD TO FUCK OFF.

I've owned four trailers in my life.

Despite the fact you tell us not to do this....you owned four? I knew buying a trailer YEARS before buying the house it wasn't a good choice. When did you realize that? 1, 2, 3, 4? We bought one, and only one.

I worked in the mortgage business for quite a few years as well.

Right, but I don't know exactly what that was. And your experience in the mortgage industry long ago does not apply to what is going on now. When housing is scarce, and tons of people are moving in...housing goes way up. That is exactly what is happening to the town we lived in. Huge energy boom. While the value of the house being a piece of personal property might go down...its value also remains high because of the demand for housing as well. The numbers we got from our realtor were valued at 51k, which was from a bank...and I dont know what numbers they used. The numbers our park manager got came from a different assessment tool (nada) that used various choices and options that we had in the house ans so on...which gave it a high resale value. And when does it become a bad choice? if we lose a few bucks, or a few thousand? Housing across the country is going down the shitter right now.

I've battled with health problems similar to Marcies, (like my weight,migraine headaches, and soul-destroying depression.)

Same here. Ive been a big guy all my life. I don't get headaches hardly at all so I don't know how bad migraines are...but I know how bad they can be just by talking with others who do suffer from them. I too have been depressed and with the help of the guy upstairs...gotten over it.

I've owned three motorcycles.

So have I!
Plus I've rode:
1. a friend mint 78 GL1000 Limited Edition dresser show bike he places in awards shows
2. another 78 GL1000 Mint condition Limited Edition bare bones bike.
3. Couple of Honda Helixes (fat guy on a little scooter....on the interstate).
4. 1996 SE GL1500.
I know that doesnt mean anything...but what the heck.

My first husband and I drove a truck, under several different circumstances, as company drivers, working for a private owner operator, and later, as owner operators ourselves.

Right, and according to you, this failed tremendously. Im going to get training next week for a couple of weeks and then will train over the road with the guy who runs this route in my area. Im not concerned about anything outside of double clutching (which Im reading up on big time) as well as 90 degree backing. From what it sounds like with the businesses I will be delivering to on my route...I figure its going to be lots of tight backing. The company I work for will only let you do a few pull ups to get it right during the test.

MarcieMoo

on Sep 29, 2007

That may have been the last incident, but during the previous six months or so you'd written quite a few, so frequently that other bloggers were betting on how long it would take for you to return...just to write another one. I stand by my original statement, the only person who's written more 'I hate JU and all you fekkers in it, so I am leaving forever and ever' is Lucas.

During the last six months, I wrote absolutely NO "goodbye" articles. But again, you can fabricate reality to suit your purposes. You usually do that, falsifying facts so that you can play the martyr later on. My last "goodbye" article was when we lived in MINNESOTA, which was the winter/spring of 2006. WELL OVER A YEAR AND A HALF AGO.

I guess they are, they've only been in school for a week or two, right? Let's see how things go at the end of the year, and see if you teach there a second year. That's a better measure than your word because neither of you tell the 'whole' truth, you keep secrets, and lie by omission.

...again, more fabricating of facts. But that's okay. Construct your own reality. School has been in session for a month. I have had MORE than one parent tell me they are glad their child is in my class, because I've taken the time to get to know their child and work with that child so that he or she can succeed. I feel like I've made much more of an effort this year to keep in contact with parents and build positive relationships with families. I generally hate calling home, but I'm trying to call for positive things to build up the emotional "bank." My students are very successful in all academic areas, even though I have a very diverse class with several students with special needs, three I suspect have special needs but haven't been referred yet, and many, many, with such horrific home lives I can't imagine. I'm implementing FIVE new curricula, and also implementing strategies and activities that I've been learning about through my graduate program.

BUT...of course, that can't be right. It's all got to be crap, because YOU think it is.

I DO CARE THAT WHEN I TAKE THE TIME TO SHARE MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCES, EXPERIENCES YOU MIGHT LEARN FROM, THAT I AM TOLD TO FUCK OFF.

...and you STILL don't "fuck off," even after you write a huge article saying how stupid we are and that you don't want to have any more dialogue with the BOTH of us. Yup. You are a fucktard indeed.

SanChonino

on Sep 29, 2007

I knew buying a trailer YEARS before buying the house it wasn't a good choice.

I seriously don't get your syntax here.

You can't even construct cogent sentences.

Hopefully trucking works better for you than teaching.

Ziggystyles

on Sep 29, 2007

In light of this revelation, I am now going to 'pull a marcie' and just say--ok, you win, everything you say is right and i'm wrong about everything, you're smart and i'm stupid and i don't know whatever got into me that made me doubt your superior wisdom and intellect, which is obviously far more magnificent and highly developed than my own.

No, you will never stop. You think that if we don't agree with you, or argue with you, that we believe we are smarter. Many times you ahve accused us of thinking we are smarter and the word omniscient has floated around too. All because we don't let you get by with your crap.

Hell, you were snickering and giggling over there in your corner about my physical and when I passed it....dead silence from you. Absolute silence.
Your first reply in that job offer number 1 was a feigned good luck, immediately followed by a misquoted article, snide comments about my health, telling me how hard it was, and reminding me that the job I took was not as cushy as I believed.
Followed by

~disturbing visual of Ziggy trying to hop on one foot 30 times~

then...

Ziggy might be able to pull it off though, mainly due to his youth and the fact that he's a non-smoker. Then again, he's not just packing an extra 50lbs, he's really, really big, and it's definitely going to be a factor that affects his eligibility.

then...

the work is extremely physical (regardless of the promises most companies make ya) and someone of your girth is going to have a difficult time of it.

Lol...I NOT ONLY passed with flying colors, I also passed with a standard 2 year card...meaning no concerns, at all. What do I hear from the LW corner? *sees cobwebs, hears crickets* Proved ya wrong. Easily.

my house - You tell me I will lose so much on it...based on your experience as in the mortgage industry. Hell...the guy picking up the garbage from the building could 'have experience' in the mortgage industry, per se.

Yet at the same time, you don't tell me what makes it bad. I might lose money on it.. heck...I might lose five or ten on it. So what? I would much rather lose five or ten grand any day on something I could call MY OWN large home, than renting out a small house that belongs to someone else. You can oly have so much pride in a rental.

You sit and whine about my bringing stuff up, when in my last reply, I prove you wrong on that...and strange...you didn't say you were wrong. interesting! Like to admit that now....or are you conveeeeeniently going to bypass this paragraph?

In the end, you still have not admitted you were wrong about my bike, haven't told me what makes my trailer a bad choice (if I sell it and take a slight loss), you fall back on the same arguments...resort when that fails to name calling and insults and continue to do that time after time. There is a difference between being obtuse and just being a plain old stupid ass.

Ziggystyles

on Sep 29, 2007

And to think you've identified all these at risk children in a month's time! Amazing. Truly amazing.

Good thing you were a teacher and know what its all about and where kids really come from and what their lives are like because you see them on TV. And thankfully with your vast parenting skills, you can tell others what it takes to be a parent.

MarcieMoo

on Sep 29, 2007

Wow, you know all this after knowing them for what, a month? I see it's the same old same old with you, Marcie, always getting assigned a class full of children being raised in horrific homes by stupid parents that have no idea how to properly care for their kids. Thank god that you, with your superior wisdom, expensive education, and zero parenting skills have arrived to save them all from their horrific home lives. And to think you've identified all these at risk children in a month's time! Amazing. Truly amazing.

Oh yes, more assumptions. Imagine that. I didn't say the parents were stupid at ALL. I've learned alot since I started teaching. I NEED these parents. They know their children far better than I do, and they spend 18 hours a day with their kids versus my six. They're far more important teachers than I'll EVER be. And usually better.

I know these children because I spend time with them. When you genuinely take interest in a child, and show that you care, they trust you, and tell you all sorts of things. My students love to write, and they write about their lives. I read their writing. They share their stories with the class (and love to do it!). I talk to the students. I talk to their parents (I can't believe how many awesome parents these students have--I've had several come to school and eat lunch with their kids, volunteer in the classroom if their schedule allows, offer to help anytime, etc. They're amazing!). I let parents know that I have an open door policy and that I am there to serve THEM.

If you've spent any time with children (and we know how you feel about them) in a classroom setting, it's very easy to pick out which students are having difficulty of some sort. I don't call up a parent and say "holy crap! your kid sucks!" No, I call and I say "You know, your student is doing really well in this and this, but I'm a little concerned about his/her performance in this area. Do you have any ideas of what I could do to help him/her in that area? I'm also going to talk about your student with another group of teachers. That group of teachers works to come up with things that teachers can do in the classroom to help students succeed. I'll keep you informed every step of the way, and make sure you have copies of paper work that I submit on your student based on things that I have noticed in the classroom and that other teachers have noticed. If you have ANY questions or suggestions, please let me know." The first DAY of school I picked out a student whose writing was much different than the other students. As the week went on, the student made comments about not being able to read. I have observed the student performing low in all academic areas since then, and on formal assessments, has performed well below average, too. I will be referring that student to the group of teachers who can give me some things that I can do with this student to help him/her be successful. If those things don't work, then we move along with additional testing and such. I've talked to mom, and she knows that I'm concerned, and she is too. I've asked for her advice concerning the student, and she's unsure of what she can do, too.

lol...Ziggy helped with my class yesterday during an all-day activity. It took him about two minutes to pick out the students I was concerned about. I've taught kids from Kindergarten up to 2nd grade for a couple of years, and I have a general idea of what the "norms" of behavior and academic achievement should be. So does he. So do the PARENTS who come into my classroom. They know when something isn't "on". If you understand a little about child development and have spent time with kids before, you know, even in just a month when something's "off". I'm glad I know now, versus in the middle of the year. This way, I can get help from parents and other teachers so these kids don't have to be "lost." I can do things to help them NOW, early in the year, instead of them suffering through and not getting the help they need until the end of the year.

But of course, you know EVERYTHING about ME as a teacher, and EVERYTHING about children in general. You continue to make assumptions about me and my profession that are COMPLETELY wrong. Like I said, I know I'm not the world's best teacher, not even CLOSE. I'm mediocre at best. I know where my areas of weakness lie, and I am taking steps to strengthen those weaknesses. I have a conference next month I'm going to on classroom management. It's an area I absolutely struggle with EVERY day. But I realize that, and I know I need to get some more learning into me about that topic so I can implement it in my classroom. I want to be better at this. And I'm working on it. We're a learning family in my class. My students know that I make mistakes, and we take time to laugh about them and move on. My students know that I go to school, too. Just like they go to school to be better readers, writers, and mathematicians, I go to school because I want to be a better teacher. I encourage my kids to not have fear of failure, and my students know that I expect them to make mistakes because that's how we learn naturally.

But...you know it all. How stupid of me. I need to take a class on Sabrinaology, because then maybe I can hope to have a bit of the knowledge you do about kids, how they learn, and families.

I bet at least one of them involves calling CPS on any parent not toeing your particular line.

lol...in my career I've had ONE discussion with CPS. Several of my students have family situations whom other teachers in the past have contacted CPS about. I care about kids and their well-being. If a child is being hurt by an adult, yeah, I'll call. But I'm not a parent, and I certainly can't judge someone else's parenting UNLESS they're OBVIOUSLY hurting their child.

I don't recall Ziggy telling me to fuck off, Marcie. If and when he does, though, I'll be sure to stay away. Until then, if you have some sort of issue with it, take it up with him, not me.

The ISSUE I have is that YOU yourself said you wanted NO FURTHER DIALOGUE with EITHER of us, yet here you are. Do you want me to quote that for you again? Since you have conveniently IGNORED your own statement the THREE times I've quoted it on this thread? Here it is again...since you miss it every time...

And don't bother to respond here, Blogger. Same to you, Spouse. I am no longer interested in dialogue with either one of you, and your responses will be deleted. Save it for your own blog, where I won't have it thrust in front of my face, because I honestly do not have enough energy to give a shit anymore.

Goodbye, and good luck with your life. You're going to need it.

That's called a "goodbye" article if I ever read one. Yet you CONTINUE to shit all over Ziggy's thread, and CONTINUE to do the same thing every time I comment elsewhere. "I am no longer interested in dialogue with either one of you." That must mean something completely different to you than it does to me.

And I've taken it up with Ziggy. Trust me, I have. I wish he'd pay you the same "respect" you've shown him, deleting all your crap-ass responses.

EmperorofIceCream

on Sep 30, 2007

MarcieMoo

on Sep 30, 2007

AND FOR THE FOURTH FUCKING TIME:

And don't bother to respond here, Blogger. Same to you, Spouse. I am no longer interested in dialogue with either one of you, and your responses will be deleted. Save it for your own blog, where I won't have it thrust in front of my face, because I honestly do not have enough energy to give a shit anymore.

Goodbye, and good luck with your life. You're going to need it.

Gideon MacLeish

on Sep 30, 2007

(sniff!)

Beautiful. Just beautiful.

Thanks for reminding me what a shitty Christian I am, Marcie. I'll try to be more like you.

Jythier

on Sep 30, 2007

On a Sunday even.

Ziggystyles

on Sep 30, 2007

Besides, I recall you being rather insistant about MAKING money on the sale of this trailer, not 'losing 5 or 10 grand,' a loss you seem really nonchalant about, but then again, since YOU aren't making the payments on it, I guess you can afford to be.

Now you bring in our organizational skills too, lol. Marcie and I have never been the best as far as organization and upkeep. I try to get stuff put away and make it look like we live there or here. I believe if you go back in my articles which I have not erased you will find that I felt I could break even, and possibly make a few bucks extra. Might have been one time where I felt I was going to make money and didn't mention breaking even. But for the most part...almost all of my quotes with selling the house have mentioned us selling at a break even point or possibly making a little bit on the sale. Either way, with the housing industry taking a crap at the moment, there is also a chance I will take a bite out of the deal.
But apparently to you, it seems like taking pride in owning your own place doesnt matter if its a trailer. Because you can always rent something out and give the money to someone else.

I do seem to recall marcie complaining about what a pigsty it had already become shortly after you two moved into it though,

Hmmm, shortly after we moved in....which would probably been about a year ago. last year. Not now....last year, then, now ,then, now.

Who's making those bike payments right now, Ziggy? Oh wait, it must be the same person who's making payments on that trailer you no longer live in.

Up until last month, the payments came out of my income that I had saved up since June. Right now for October, I will be calling the bank and working out a deal with them until I get paid at the end of the month on my regular pay with the company I work for.
And yes, oh bright one. See, with your experience in the mortgage industry, just ebcause you move out of a house you own, that doesnt mean you can stop making payments on the mortgage. As a matter of fact, you still own it. We have been out of there for one month. Way to make a fuss over a month or two. Most homes that are up for sale don't sell within the first day they are on the market. Of course, with your experience in the mortgage industry, they probably sell alot faster when they arent working with a realtor...which is our case. Just faxed in the papers on Friday for it to be listed. Of course, if you have read my replies on here and replies to Gid, you would have known that.

If I were you, I'd be taking up some more important things, like getting stuck paying for HIS expensive toy over and over again,

Hmm, please show me your sources for this. My salary from the school district has paid for my bike up until this month. How can she be paying for it over and over again?

or eating a 10k loss on the trailer you both took so much 'pride' in

So its ok if I take a loss by forking the money out for a rental like you do, but its Not ok if I take a loss by owning my own place? Either way, you lose money.

Or the fact that despite his current optimism, he still doesn't have a job, and won't for some time.

Ahh but yes, I do have a job Little One. If you read the title of the this thread, its Job offer #2. My offer was conditional based on my passing my physical (which you were very pessimistic about, but yet I still passed easily), as well as based on my passing my training course. In order to get this new job, I have to be trained in on it. I train for two weeks and start getting paid the week after that.

As Ziggy takes pride in losing his ass on a TRAILER, you take pride in your mediocrity. Way to go, mad-cow-woman, way to go!

And you take pride in....what? You mock me for looking for a job, yet forget that I have one. Yet at the same time, you look for a job, buy equipment you dont need for it, but are certain to get based on yeras of experience answering the phone. Now your job as you call it is selling ritual items online. I wouldnt even say its your job now as it appears to be something you have been doing for a while now. So basically you were looking for a job, and either you no longer are....or you just can't get one. Thankfully, you can rebut with your ability to prove your years of steady and continuous (albiet with many different employers for various reasons) employment. So I guess you can take pride in that....you have worked many...many many many more jobs than I ever will or hope to.

So yes....I will admit this fully to you and the whole of JU. That if I ever need advice in how not to stay with one employer...I know that I can count on you for advice.

Ziggystyles

on Sep 30, 2007

Also...just would like to remind ya of something...posted on Aug 17th...just about a month and a half ago.

I have recently cut ties with another blogger here, and will no longer be following their life story or interacting with them....
Blogger will never, ever get that from me, so when I was invited to leave, I took Blogger up on the offer. End of story....
But you just aren't worth the time it takes to type out responses anymore...
Goodbye, and good luck with your life. You're going to need it.

And that lasted for a grand total of .......wanna guess?
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2 days! Started replying on my very next blog on the 19th.
Sort of like the 5 year old that runs away...and makes it to the mailbox before realizing they have nowhere else to go.

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